HEALING MEDICINE PODCAST

with Dr. Jessie Mahoney and Dr. Ni-Cheng Liang

Healing Medicine was formerly the Mindful Healers Podcast.

Same hosts, same mission, same conversations—new name.

A mindfulness, mindset, and sustainable-leadership podcast for physicians.

Healing Medicine is for physicians who care deeply, do a lot, and are asking what a sustainable life in—or beyond—clinical medicine might look like.

Whether you are trying to stay, considering leaving, changing how you practice, or simply longing to feel more like yourself again, you are welcome here.

Through honest conversations, practical coaching tools, and mindfulness practices grounded in lived physician experience, we explore burnout, over-responsibility, career and identity transitions, relationships, nervous-system awareness, and leadership.

This is not one more thing to do. It is a place to pause, reflect, and choose differently.

Jessie Mahoney left clinical medicine after a long career as a pediatrician and physician leader. Ni-Cheng Liang continues to practice clinically as a pulmonologist. Together, they hold space for the many ways physicians can create a life and career that fit—without prescribing one right path.

Episodes:

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335. The Problem With Never Being Satisfied: Still Practicing but Differently
335. The Problem With Never Being Satisfied: Still Practicing but Differently

I thought I was a Kaiser lifer. Until I wasn’t. In this episode, Jessie shares why leaving was terrifying, why she could not not do it, and why she now understands that she is still practicing medicine—just with different people, in different places, and with a wider radius of impact. This episode is an invitation to listen to yourself more closely, trust that change can be nonlinear, and consider that there may be more than one way to practice authentically.

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334. When Your Dream Job Changes: Finding a Sustainable Way to Practice Medicine with Dr. Ashlin Mountjoy
334. When Your Dream Job Changes: Finding a Sustainable Way to Practice Medicine with Dr. Ashlin Mountjoy

A family medicine physician shares how coaching with Jessie helped her find a sustainable way to stay in medicine. She had thought she was in her forever job: full-scope family medicine, OB care, community health, and clinical leadership in an FQHC she loved. Then the job changed. Leaders left, colleagues were fired, staffing became unsustainable. The work that had once felt like a dream no longer did.

If you still love medicine and want a way of practicing that allows you to be fully human, this episode is full of pearls to help you get there.

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333. Intentional Friendship: Why Connection After Training Takes Real Effort
333. Intentional Friendship: Why Connection After Training Takes Real Effort

Jessie Mahoney and Ni-Cheng Liang explore why friendship is hard to find and sustain after medical training. The people, structure, and shared experience that made connection simply happen in training disappear. At the same time, clinical practice, family life, caregiving, leadership, and life pull our energy and attention in other directions.

This episode explores “intentional friendship”: how to make new connections, sustain old ones, and navigate the vulnerability of reaching out.

Friendship is neither optional nor indulgent. It is medicine. Listen to learn about scheduling connection, allowing friendships to have seasons, making room for imperfect attendance, moving beyond comparison, and practicing the often-unfamiliar skill of receiving support.

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332. Uncompromising Intimacy: How to Reconnect in Long-Term Relationships
332. Uncompromising Intimacy: How to Reconnect in Long-Term Relationships

What is uncompromising intimacy? Why is curiosity oxygen for long-term relationships?

Listen to this week’s podcast with special guest Dr. Alexandra Stockwell to explore intimacy, libido mismatch, and practical ways to reconnect in long-term relationships.

Learn why practicing pleasure in your daily life can grow your libido and why small transitions can be an opportunity for connection.

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331. High Maintenance: You Are Worth Maintaining Meticulously
331. High Maintenance: You Are Worth Maintaining Meticulously

In this episode, Dr. Jessie Mahoney offers a different frame: high-level work and high-level lives require high-level maintenance. Sleep is maintenance. Boundaries are maintenance. Friendship, nourishment, time outside, rest, reflection, asking for help, and coaching are all maintenance.

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330. Getting Your Head Above the Clouds: Creating Space to Savor What Comes Next with Dr. Kelly Derbin
330. Getting Your Head Above the Clouds: Creating Space to Savor What Comes Next with Dr. Kelly Derbin

Sometimes we do not need a better plan. We need enough space to hear ourselves.

In this week’s conversation, family physician Dr. Kelly Derbin shares how coaching, mindfulness, yoga, two Connect in Nature retreats, and time in nature helped her navigate burnout and the tender decision to retire from clinical practice.  Her story is a beautiful reminder that a pause is not the same as stepping away from your life. It is often how you find your way back into it.

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About the Hosts

Dr. Jessie Mahoney and Dr. Ni-Cheng Liang are physicians, mindfulness teachers, and leaders in physician well-being. Their conversations bring clinical understanding, practical tools, and a calm, human perspective to the real pressures of practicing medicine today.

Healing Medicine is especially for physicians and healthcare leaders navigating burnout, moral injury, over-functioning, career change, relationship strain, or the quiet longing to feel more alive in a life that looks successful from the outside.

Kind Words About the Podcast

  • “So so so essential”

    I didn’t know how much mindfulness would change my experience. Night and day. These coaches understand how to communicate mindfulness in doable, informative presentations. A true life-changing treasure.”

  • “The best podcast! Thank you so much for all the inspirational advice!”

  • “Every episode contains beautiful, practical wisdom for all areas of life.”

  • “Soothing and Inspiring! I really enjoy this podcast.

    Both of these incredible physicians have such a peaceful presence and their conversations always leave me reflecting long after each episode ends.

    I often turn this on when I’m needing to calm my busy brain or slow down. Although they keep a gentle pace, I’m left feeling very motivated and reenergized after.”

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For Those Who Want to Go Deeper

For many listeners, the podcast is a doorway.

The conversations you hear on Healing Medicine are woven into coaching, retreats, and leadership experiences designed to support physicians and healthcare leaders in practicing presence, agency, and sustainable leadership in real life.

These offerings grow naturally from the same values and practices shared on the podcast.

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​Core Strengths of the Healing Medicine Podcast

Deep alignment with physician pain points.

Episodes explore real and raw topics such as burnout, over-responsibility, self-worth, pricing, identity, and career transitions. Rather than offering surface-level advice, Healing Medicine brings heart-centered, experience-informed insights grounded in lived clinical experience.

A distinct and steady voice

While many physician wellness podcasts follow a familiar interview-and-tips format, Healing Medicine offers something quieter and deeper. The tone is calm, wise, and reflective—especially in solo episodes—featuring original frameworks and mindfulness as a lived, integrated practice rather than a buzzword.

Intimate, reflective, and philosophically grounded


Healing Medicine is not trying to fix medicine or hustle physicians out of burnout. Instead, it creates space to breathe, feel, and choose differently—inviting sustainable change from the inside out. This depth and tone make Healing Medicine a trusted voice for physicians, leaders, and organizations seeking meaningful culture change in medicine.